Move congregations immediately, and don't reveal anything to any J.W.'s.
If you stay and/or say the wrong thing, you'll be in the wilderness for a long, long time.
The wolves will have you for breakfast.
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How do I handle this situation?
by BarelyThere inhey everyone.
i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.
there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.
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A Fitting Song For The Corporation
by The Searcher inpowerful cover version of a timeless classic!
"hello darkness, my old friend, i've come to talk with you again, because a vision softly creeping, left its seeds while i was sleeping, and the vision that was planted in my brain still remains, within the sound of silence.in restless dreams i walked alone narrow streets of cobblestone, 'neath the halo of a street lamp, i turned my collar to the cold and damp, when my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light that split the night, and touched the sound of silence.and in the naked light i saw, ten thousand people, maybe more.
people talking without speaking, people hearing without listening, people writing songs that voices never share and no one dared, disturb the sound of silence.
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Powerful cover version of a timeless classic!
"Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again, Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping, And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains, Within the sound of silence.
In restless dreams I walked alone Narrow streets of cobblestone, 'Neath the halo of a street lamp,
I turned my collar to the cold and damp, When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light That split the night,
And touched the sound of silence.
And in the naked light I saw, Ten thousand people, maybe more. People talking without speaking, People hearing without listening, People writing songs that voices never share And no one dared, Disturb the sound of silence.
"Fools," said I, "You do not know. Silence like a cancer grows. Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you." But my words like silent raindrops fell And echoed in the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed, To the neon god they made. [JW.0RG] And the sign flashed out its warning In the words that it was forming. And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls And tenement halls, And whispered in the sounds of silence." -
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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The Searcher
We have "free will" to obey our governments laws - or not - and they are generally for everyone's benefit.
Doing otherwise (in many situations) causes pain, suffering, or death to fellow citizens - such as driving while drunk or using firearms against innocent people. People select for themselves which laws they will abide by, and which ones they will flaunt. How would our cities look if no one deliberately broke laws?
The scriptural "law of the Christ" for Christians doesn't strike me as being restrictive or depriving me of anything. It's just a pity that more people don't do to others what they'd like done to them.
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." (Jeremiah 31:33 - NIV)
An earth filled with law-abiding people wouldn't be a bad thing, would it?
How we exercise our free will defines exactly who we are, and silently testifies to our love and respect for others.
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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing
by I am a Bible Student injohnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.
they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .
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Definitely requires verifiable proof before any of us can repeat such atrocities to our still-in family etc.
Otherwise, it will only serve to reinforce their opinions of "apostates on the web."
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It Is With the Heaviest of Hearts...
by AudeSapere in.. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.
it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.
..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.
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A tragic loss for all who loved Eagles songs, but a terrible shock and heartbreak for his family and close friends.
I feel for them.
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BOE 2016-01-15 Re: New Feature on jw.org for Processing Recommendations of Elders and Ministerial Servants
by wifibandit inboe 2016-01-15 re: new feature on jw.org for processing recommendations of elders and ministerial servants.
pdf.
thanks ich3b!.
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Thanks WiFi.
Electronically "appointed men" - selected by the "spirit of the web."
Fast-tracking of Glorious Ones - to replace the increasing numbers of disillusioned elders who are jumping ship?
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The WT in 10 years time
by Coded Logic ina. in 2026 in what state do you think the organization will be?.
) 9million + members.
) roughly the same amount of members as today (7-9 million)..
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A 2
B 3
C 3
D 3
The "refining work" and the "best use of resources" will continue to rapidly slow down the production of printed literature and focus on the cost-saving electronic "witnessing" propaganda. The numbers joining, coupled with the number of J.W.'s infants being baptized, will be greatly outweighed by the numbers of those who are fading/leaving/disfellowshipped.
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A sincere message to those from the organisation monitoring my posts....
by stuckinarut2 inso, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.
just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.
facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....
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The perverse and evil thinking which J.W's in general - but elders in particular - display, never ceases to disgust me, because they attempt to justify such anti-Christian behaviour as "theocratic warfare."
It's OK for them to frequent apostate web sites - but not you!
It's OK for elders to speak with disfellowshipped ones - but you will be severely punished for doing so!
It's OK for elders to look at & discuss your monthly report - but try and ask to see their reports!!!!
It's OK for "imperfect elders" to make mistakes, but "imperfect publishers" mistakes will be punished by them!
Glorious ones? In their dreams!
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I can't let go of this obsession...
by juandefiero ini really want to let go of the exjw obsession.
but i can't.
i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!
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Juan - you're not alone! There's a great crowd of us folks - both in and out - who feel like screaming at our loved ones "why won't you just look at the evidence."
Just hang in there and be gentle with your family. The carrot is more successful than the stick. Try to ask them thought-stirring questions, rather than telling them things - things which they really don't want to hear or discuss!
I'll bet the Corporation's propaganda is already making them privately concerned!
Barely There - It's normal to feel so many different emotions when confronted with TTATT, but look at it as a new start, a new way of life. Then start to walk slowly along your new road. It really does get better as you go on.
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Are G.B. Members Too Scared to Visit the U.K. ?
by The Searcher in... in case the u.k. charities commission summons them - like the australian royal commission snared mr. jackson?
why else would they be sending two of their personal boot-lickers?.
credit to wifibandit for this post.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5658621048258560/boe-2016-01-13-britain-branch-visit-2016-01-18-correct-use-jw-org-inboxes.
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STEVE2 - G.J.'s father died pretty soon after, I heard.